| | OP  Member Joined: February 2005 Posts: 249 | Hullo does whatsoever ane out there know if the 94 is as strong every bit a 92.I have been offered a Winchester 94 [merchandise] in .44Mag. i accept heard the 92 has a piddling bit shorter action. Whatsoever Help? Dan | | | Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,378 Campfire Regular | | Bivouac Regular Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,378 | Not sure almost forcefulness 94 vs 92. I practice know that the 92 is a wonderful and elegant activeness and with the right bbl length is carries winderfully. OTOH, you can or used to exist able to go 92 clones chambered in .454 Casull. FTR, my wife loves her Rossi 92 clone in .44mag.
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----Fred Rogers | | | Joined: Dec 2017 Posts: 1,095 Campfire Regular | | Bivouac Regular Joined: Dec 2017 Posts: 1,095 | The 92 is a typical saddle gun with chambers matching nigh revolver cartridges i.e., 357 mag. 44 mag. These operate at 35K CUP and 36K CUP. The Std 94 runs 30-30 WCF at 42K CUP, the 94 AE XTR (made approx. betwixt 1982-2004 has fat reinforced rear receiver is rated at 52K Loving cup. Chambered in 7-thirty Waters, 307 Win, 356 Win, 375 Win and 444 Marlin. These cartridges are typically loaded from 42K CUP-44K CUP. The 450 Marlin is loaded to 44K piezo and offered in the new 94s. The 454 Casull operates in the 60K+ psi range, now you can come across why they are no longer offered by Rossi, Puma or whatsoever other 92 knock-off. They will destroy that action over time. The 94 will take a flake more pressure in my interpretation, neither should be used to push the 454 Casull. The Casull works well on heavy reinforced revolvers like Ruger, Freedom Arms and the BFR. | | | Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 289 Campfire Regular | | Campfire Regular Joined: December 2012 Posts: 289 | Assuming modern steel etc the 92 is a stronger design merely both are more than strong enough for the 44 mag. The 92 was designed around short pistol sized cartridges and that size rifle proved to be very pop when it was introduced. Winchester asked Browning to retain the size and handling of the 92 but come up with a burglarize that could be chambered for longer cartridges like the 30/30 and 38/55. The Win 1894 was the result and that size burglarize along with the thirty/30's performance proved to be extremely popular. In the sixty's the 92 was no longer produced just there was renewed interest in leverguns in pistol sized cartridges. Both Winchester and Marlin adapted their 30/30 rifles to chamber and operate in 44mag. Early attempts had some success merely getting a long action to feed a brusk cartridge needed a lot more refining. Eventually over many years Winchester managed to get the shorter cartridges to work but for my money I'd await to buy a 92 type activity. If you can afford it look for a Browning 92. Avert the early 94'due south with the pressed steel beat lifters. I had i of those and it was nothing but problem. Last edited by JFE; 06/04/19. | | | Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 12,086 Campfire 'Bwana |  Campfire 'Bwana Joined: December 2013 Posts: 12,086 | Yeah, the 92 is a good bit stronger than a 94, but it actually shouldn't matter. What you should actually be concerned with is how well the 94 chambers that short pistol circular. I've heard that some of them take some trouble. | | | Joined: December 2017 Posts: 1,095 Campfire Regular | | Campfire Regular Joined: Dec 2017 Posts: 1,095 | Bear witness me a 92 load that exceeds a 94 load. "Good fleck stronger"? All cartridges funneled through a Win 92 have a great deal less pressure than those pushed through a 94, especially the 94 big bore chambering. Final edited by Rossimp; 06/04/nineteen. | | | Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 11,858 Campfire 'Bwana | | Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 11,858 | The model 1886 is Winchesters strongest levergun. The model 92 is just a shrunken 1886. The model 94 lacks the twin vertical locking lugs of the other two. The 92 is stronger. For some reason the Rossi has been brought into this? That's like judging a S&W by the durability of a Taurus. | | | Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 388 Campfire Regular | | Campfire Regular Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 388 | Yeah, the 92 is a skilful bit stronger than a 94, but it really shouldn't thing. What y'all should actually be concerned with is how well the 94 chambers that short pistol circular. I've heard that some of them have some trouble. I've heard that off and on over the years. I accept a model 94 Trapper in .44 mag, and it cycles simply fine without any jams. I dearest my 94's, simply at that place's just something nearly a 92 in 44 mag or 357 that's just perfect. | | | Joined: Dec 2017 Posts: 1,095 Campfire Regular | | Campfire Regular Joined: Dec 2017 Posts: 1,095 | Aye hear this all the time about the 86. Inquire Turnbull why his loads are held at 40k psi. The 86 has never been rated at pressures higher than at fat sided 94 Big Bore at 52K Cup. In fact bear witness me whatever 86 loading greater than 40K-42K psi. | | | Joined: Dec 2017 Posts: 1,095 Campfire Regular | | Campfire Regular Joined: Dec 2017 Posts: 1,095 | That's good info, I stand up corrected, thanks. The 454 Casull is a animal. | | | Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 12,086 Campfire 'Bwana | | Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 12,086 | I've read in other places and information technology makes sense to me that the 92 is the strongest of the traditional Winchester'southward in that it is a shorter 1886. Being shorter, there is less room for stretching of the steel. I dubiety that there is much difference. Just I know that .357 loads that my Rossi will assimilate all 24-hour interval one after the other will lock up a Marlin. I didn't fifty-fifty realize that they were that hot as that they were just book max loads and had no pressure signs in my Rossi at all. Merely they locked up my blood brother'southward Marlin and you had to poke them out with a rod. | | | Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 11,858 Campfire 'Bwana | | Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 11,858 | Yep hear this all the time nearly the 86. Ask Turnbull why his loads are held at 40k psi. The 86 has never been rated at pressures higher than at fat sided 94 Large Bore at 52K CUP. In fact show me any 86 loading greater than 40K-42K psi. All you've got is the 94 XTR Large Bore. ten 1000000 94's out there and you're going to act like the XTR Large Bore is the standard 94. What did they sell? ten,000 or so of those? The 94 had to be beefed up for a reason. | | | Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 11,858 Campfire 'Bwana | | Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 11,858 | I've read in other places and information technology makes sense to me that the 92 is the strongest of the traditional Winchester's in that information technology is a shorter 1886. Being shorter, there is less room for stretching of the steel. I doubt that there is much difference. But I know that .357 loads that my Rossi will digest all day one after the other volition lock up a Marlin. I didn't fifty-fifty realize that they were that hot as that they were simply book max loads and had no force per unit area signs in my Rossi at all. But they locked upwardly my brother's Marlin and you had to poke them out with a rod. And the Rossi even has a smaller receiver than a Winchester 92! | | | Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: iii,307 Bivouac Guide | | Campfire Guide Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 3,307 | Prove me a 92 load that exceeds a 94 load. "Expert bit stronger"? All cartridges funneled through a Win 92 take a corking bargain less force per unit area than those pushed through a 94, particularly the 94 large diameter chambering. Agreed, the 92 has a stronger design in spite of beingness chambered for 14000 PSI loads originally .... | | | Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 13,615 Campfire 'Bwana | | Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 13,615 | My puma 92 has well-nigh 5k mitt loaded 300g 454. Rounds through it. Not a sign of loosening up.ymmv
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